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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by HIP-Consultant.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>HIP-Consultant.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issues within the housing market that HIPs have been implemented to address are largely recognised and acknowledged within the industry as problematic.

The examples Mr P. Walker has given above can potentially cause delays in transaction times. By commissioning a Home Information Pack at the start of the process these examples can be identified and resolved prior to an offer being submitted, therefore removing the probability of a 'last minute' hold up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issues within the housing market that HIPs have been implemented to address are largely recognised and acknowledged within the industry as problematic.</p>
<p>The examples Mr P. Walker has given above can potentially cause delays in transaction times. By commissioning a Home Information Pack at the start of the process these examples can be identified and resolved prior to an offer being submitted, therefore removing the probability of a &#8216;last minute&#8217; hold up.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by ANDREW COOK</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>ANDREW COOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very fact that properties are being sold without HIPs seems to beg the question whether HIPS are needed at all.

Andrew Cook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very fact that properties are being sold without HIPs seems to beg the question whether HIPS are needed at all.</p>
<p>Andrew Cook</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by Ray Powers</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Powers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us be honest about HIP's;
If the Tories had brought them in, then Labour would have been against them. The principle behind HIP's is perfectly sound but the way in which they were introduced was shambolic.

The main protagonists in the anti HIP lobby have vested interests (real or perceived) in maintaining the status quo, their opposition to HIPs is not altruistic - it's greed. 
An example of this greed can be seen in the 'mark-up' that some Estate Agents apply to the HIP before 'selling it on'. HIP prices have fallen due to competition (and the fact that searches have become cheaper due to HIP's!) but I regularly encounter house sellers who have paid up to £50 more for their pack because the Estate Agent has added 'administration costs' to it!

The Government have been sadly negligent in thier attitude towards publicity for HIP's, has anyone seen anything meaningfull aimed at anyone other than Property 'Professionals'? If you leave the publicity in the hands of the anti HIP lobby you get the situation that we are have now.
The general public know little, if anything, about HIPs other than the negative press releases and Estate Agents are not exactly forthcoming when asked about them.

As a DEA &#38; HIP provider I know that many HIP's are not being progressed until a firm offer has been made on a property. I also know that the threat of being fined £200 (per day) for not having the HIP / EPC data in place is laughed at, after all who is going to enforce it - certainly not the local Trading Standards people.

HIPs were, and still are, a very good idea. It's a pity that the government do not seem able to recognise this and support them with the strength that they deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us be honest about HIP&#8217;s;<br />
If the Tories had brought them in, then Labour would have been against them. The principle behind HIP&#8217;s is perfectly sound but the way in which they were introduced was shambolic.</p>
<p>The main protagonists in the anti HIP lobby have vested interests (real or perceived) in maintaining the status quo, their opposition to HIPs is not altruistic - it&#8217;s greed.<br />
An example of this greed can be seen in the &#8216;mark-up&#8217; that some Estate Agents apply to the HIP before &#8217;selling it on&#8217;. HIP prices have fallen due to competition (and the fact that searches have become cheaper due to HIP&#8217;s!) but I regularly encounter house sellers who have paid up to £50 more for their pack because the Estate Agent has added &#8216;administration costs&#8217; to it!</p>
<p>The Government have been sadly negligent in thier attitude towards publicity for HIP&#8217;s, has anyone seen anything meaningfull aimed at anyone other than Property &#8216;Professionals&#8217;? If you leave the publicity in the hands of the anti HIP lobby you get the situation that we are have now.<br />
The general public know little, if anything, about HIPs other than the negative press releases and Estate Agents are not exactly forthcoming when asked about them.</p>
<p>As a DEA &amp; HIP provider I know that many HIP&#8217;s are not being progressed until a firm offer has been made on a property. I also know that the threat of being fined £200 (per day) for not having the HIP / EPC data in place is laughed at, after all who is going to enforce it - certainly not the local Trading Standards people.</p>
<p>HIPs were, and still are, a very good idea. It&#8217;s a pity that the government do not seem able to recognise this and support them with the strength that they deserve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should I train as a domestic energy assessor (DEA)? by Martyn</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/07/05/should-i-train-as-a-domestic-energy-assessor/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Martyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like many at the moment I am currently facing redundancy, so I am looking at all sorts of options. I think I'm a reasonably switched-on person, who is able to spot fools-gold from a golden nugget, but like many I responded to the Multi-Skilled Energy Assessor advert in the local paper last night. I phoned, and not surprisingly, I found that I was ideally suited and have been offered an interview. As there's no such thing as a free lunch, I decided to research this golden opportunity. Google soon came up with this site. Thanks to you all for confirming my suspicions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many at the moment I am currently facing redundancy, so I am looking at all sorts of options. I think I&#8217;m a reasonably switched-on person, who is able to spot fools-gold from a golden nugget, but like many I responded to the Multi-Skilled Energy Assessor advert in the local paper last night. I phoned, and not surprisingly, I found that I was ideally suited and have been offered an interview. As there&#8217;s no such thing as a free lunch, I decided to research this golden opportunity. Google soon came up with this site. Thanks to you all for confirming my suspicions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Problems getting a mortgage by John</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/07/29/problems-getting-a-mortgage/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the housing markets are not the best. But this kind of thing happens from decade to decade, its a buyers market, then a sellers market. Right now it is a buyers market and if you need a quality house, you'll pay a good price for it. Later on you'll be thankful to purchase the house at a low price and be able to sell it (if you choose to) for a better profit when it becomes a sellers market. Unfortunatly with the economy, it is hard to even buy these cheaper houses:-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the housing markets are not the best. But this kind of thing happens from decade to decade, its a buyers market, then a sellers market. Right now it is a buyers market and if you need a quality house, you&#8217;ll pay a good price for it. Later on you&#8217;ll be thankful to purchase the house at a low price and be able to sell it (if you choose to) for a better profit when it becomes a sellers market. Unfortunatly with the economy, it is hard to even buy these cheaper houses:-/</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by Ian Macpherson DipDEA, LRPS</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Macpherson DipDEA, LRPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIPS should indeed remain and be developed. The NAEA are beefing about them because their members are not getting any financial reward any more from external sources. Given that sellers pay out massive fees to greedy estate agents for some advertising space and a notice board, maybe the EA's should consider how expensive they are to the seller. And all this rubbish about them not being of benefit to homebuyers is just tripe!

The searches have to be done anyway, regardless. The only difference previously was that a solicitor or conveyancer, took your eyes out and came back for the sockets with the fees that you were charged.

And to say they are expensive to home sellers is claptrap as well! The price has reached a level which is far more cost effective than has been suggested. But more importantly, nearly everybody who is selling their house is going on to buy another one so it's even stevens! The house they go to buy has to have a HIP too so they, as potential buyers, don't have to pay out fortunes for searches cos they've already been done. Thus, they have saved probably more by the HIP process rather than the old way.

Despite all the political rubbish being spouted by the opportunist Tories, it is my belief that HIPS are here to stay, in one form or another. The Tories don't have a viable alternative and probably won't have because it's not an issue which has any political capital at a general election. People have far more important priorities like the cost of gas and electricity, for which they are being held to ransom by energy suppliers, owned by foreign companies, which were able to do so cos Margaret Bloody Thatcher sold them all off to give tax cuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIPS should indeed remain and be developed. The NAEA are beefing about them because their members are not getting any financial reward any more from external sources. Given that sellers pay out massive fees to greedy estate agents for some advertising space and a notice board, maybe the EA&#8217;s should consider how expensive they are to the seller. And all this rubbish about them not being of benefit to homebuyers is just tripe!</p>
<p>The searches have to be done anyway, regardless. The only difference previously was that a solicitor or conveyancer, took your eyes out and came back for the sockets with the fees that you were charged.</p>
<p>And to say they are expensive to home sellers is claptrap as well! The price has reached a level which is far more cost effective than has been suggested. But more importantly, nearly everybody who is selling their house is going on to buy another one so it&#8217;s even stevens! The house they go to buy has to have a HIP too so they, as potential buyers, don&#8217;t have to pay out fortunes for searches cos they&#8217;ve already been done. Thus, they have saved probably more by the HIP process rather than the old way.</p>
<p>Despite all the political rubbish being spouted by the opportunist Tories, it is my belief that HIPS are here to stay, in one form or another. The Tories don&#8217;t have a viable alternative and probably won&#8217;t have because it&#8217;s not an issue which has any political capital at a general election. People have far more important priorities like the cost of gas and electricity, for which they are being held to ransom by energy suppliers, owned by foreign companies, which were able to do so cos Margaret Bloody Thatcher sold them all off to give tax cuts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by Paul M Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a DEA.  Up until mid January, 2008, I provided Energy Performance Certificates for solicitors.  Whilst visiting properties I could not defend HIP when confronted by vendors.

Since then I have been producing HIPs.  I can now defend them.  Over the months I have been able to resolve many issues that could have delayed the sale of a house had they not come to light at the start of marketing.

a.  Properties not registered with HMLR
b.  HMLR documents with incorrect postcodes
c.  Homes with additional land purchased not registered     with HMLR
d.  Incorrect address on HMLR documents
e.  Incorrect land boundries on HMLR documents
f.  IH Tax issues

I feel that HIP do bring benifits.  As for cost, well all the documents in the HIP(apart from the EPC) have always been required.  The vendor pays for them instead of the buyer, preventing loss of monies to the buyer when the sale falls through.

So now searches are cheaper than ever.  An EPC costs between £80 to £120.

HIPs are a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a DEA.  Up until mid January, 2008, I provided Energy Performance Certificates for solicitors.  Whilst visiting properties I could not defend HIP when confronted by vendors.</p>
<p>Since then I have been producing HIPs.  I can now defend them.  Over the months I have been able to resolve many issues that could have delayed the sale of a house had they not come to light at the start of marketing.</p>
<p>a.  Properties not registered with HMLR<br />
b.  HMLR documents with incorrect postcodes<br />
c.  Homes with additional land purchased not registered     with HMLR<br />
d.  Incorrect address on HMLR documents<br />
e.  Incorrect land boundries on HMLR documents<br />
f.  IH Tax issues</p>
<p>I feel that HIP do bring benifits.  As for cost, well all the documents in the HIP(apart from the EPC) have always been required.  The vendor pays for them instead of the buyer, preventing loss of monies to the buyer when the sale falls through.</p>
<p>So now searches are cheaper than ever.  An EPC costs between £80 to £120.</p>
<p>HIPs are a good thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by Simon Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the author needs to recognize that HIPs have achieved little, and cost a lot. The nation is collectively paying far more out for HIPs than any benefit they bring. They are not a solution to any particular problem, and if they did not exist it would not be necessary to invent them. The Tories (who are likely to be in power in 2 years or sooner ) have promised to scrap them. The property industry will heave a sigh of relief when they do, and home sellers will welcome the consequent savings.
The PIQ seems like a desperate attempt to introduce some value to the pack. It is fraught with legal and practical difficulties and sellers should not complete them without consulting a lawyer (more expense). Give  it up. HIPs are doomed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the author needs to recognize that HIPs have achieved little, and cost a lot. The nation is collectively paying far more out for HIPs than any benefit they bring. They are not a solution to any particular problem, and if they did not exist it would not be necessary to invent them. The Tories (who are likely to be in power in 2 years or sooner ) have promised to scrap them. The property industry will heave a sigh of relief when they do, and home sellers will welcome the consequent savings.<br />
The PIQ seems like a desperate attempt to introduce some value to the pack. It is fraught with legal and practical difficulties and sellers should not complete them without consulting a lawyer (more expense). Give  it up. HIPs are doomed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by HIP-Consultant.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>HIP-Consultant.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of homes on the market which will not legally require a HIP due to the legislation commencement dates as you state Ron. The 'drop dead' date is yet to be annouced.

Henry Pryor, who set up property website Primemove.com, has calculated that at least one in 10 of sellers do not have a HIP.

"About 130,000 houses went onto the market in May, but only 89,000 HIPS were commissioned," he said.

He said some of this figure could include sellers remarketing their homes, but that "about 15,000 people put their house on the market without first commissioning a HIP". 

The HIP provides information at the beginning of the house buying process which includes documents previously supplied once a deal was struck. As essential documents are prepared and ready to be used in the conveyancing it can speed the process up and identify any issue that may cause concern at the outset, reducing the numbers of house sales falling through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of homes on the market which will not legally require a HIP due to the legislation commencement dates as you state Ron. The &#8216;drop dead&#8217; date is yet to be annouced.</p>
<p>Henry Pryor, who set up property website Primemove.com, has calculated that at least one in 10 of sellers do not have a HIP.</p>
<p>&#8220;About 130,000 houses went onto the market in May, but only 89,000 HIPS were commissioned,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>He said some of this figure could include sellers remarketing their homes, but that &#8220;about 15,000 people put their house on the market without first commissioning a HIP&#8221;. </p>
<p>The HIP provides information at the beginning of the house buying process which includes documents previously supplied once a deal was struck. As essential documents are prepared and ready to be used in the conveyancing it can speed the process up and identify any issue that may cause concern at the outset, reducing the numbers of house sales falling through.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Breaking of HIP laws by ron.kennor</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/08/03/breaking-of-hip-laws/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>ron.kennor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this story was put about by the HIPs industry suspicious of the low number of HIPs in relation to the properties currently for sale. The truth is may of these homes were on the market before HIPs were required and therefore in law still do not require one. 
There has yet to be a clear announcement of the 'drop dead date' when all properties will require a HIP irrespective of when the home was originally offered for sale.Until then vendors and estate agents will do all they can to avoid this £300 expense widely predicted to be, and subsequently proven to be, a complete waste of time, money and effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this story was put about by the HIPs industry suspicious of the low number of HIPs in relation to the properties currently for sale. The truth is may of these homes were on the market before HIPs were required and therefore in law still do not require one.<br />
There has yet to be a clear announcement of the &#8216;drop dead date&#8217; when all properties will require a HIP irrespective of when the home was originally offered for sale.Until then vendors and estate agents will do all they can to avoid this £300 expense widely predicted to be, and subsequently proven to be, a complete waste of time, money and effort.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should I train as a domestic energy assessor (DEA)? by Melanie</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/07/05/should-i-train-as-a-domestic-energy-assessor/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, I am soo glad I found this site. I too have been invited to an "interview" in a nice glossy training centre in Reading. I had my suspicions about them when they called me back for the telephone interview which was supposed to be an informal chat until they started to ask me about my qualifications, and then it really turned into a sales/recruitment pitch. They left me with questions such as is the scheme governemnt funded, what costs will i pay. they weren't willing to discuss this until the day of the interview which is supposed to be this afternoon. I have now cancelled!!!!! I have already been made redundant because of the credit crunch, there'sd no way I'm gonna get scammed and loose even more money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I am soo glad I found this site. I too have been invited to an &#8220;interview&#8221; in a nice glossy training centre in Reading. I had my suspicions about them when they called me back for the telephone interview which was supposed to be an informal chat until they started to ask me about my qualifications, and then it really turned into a sales/recruitment pitch. They left me with questions such as is the scheme governemnt funded, what costs will i pay. they weren&#8217;t willing to discuss this until the day of the interview which is supposed to be this afternoon. I have now cancelled!!!!! I have already been made redundant because of the credit crunch, there&#8217;sd no way I&#8217;m gonna get scammed and loose even more money</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should I train as a domestic energy assessor (DEA)? by Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.hip-consultant.co.uk/blog/2008/07/05/should-i-train-as-a-domestic-energy-assessor/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When one door closes another opens...

I am an estate agent and work for a small independent firm in Bristol. The local market is, well, bad to say the least!

The number of people pulling out on sales at the last minute or trying to re-neg is sooooooo bad that we have had to look in to other revenue steams. 

One of the main problems with estate agency is that we have to wait 2-4 months once we have secured a sale before we actually get paid on the sale. For years Estate agents have been trying to come up with ways to secure some money upfront on every sale and it has been found! HIP's are the upfront fee agents have been searching for (thank you labour!) It is instant money and a very good revenue stream.

However, with EPC's being part of the HIP it wont be long before they are carried out in house to secure another revenue stream. I have just trained as a DEA which means i can offer Estate Agency experience, lettings experience and now EPC's! I have the advantage of having a guranteed source of houses (rental and sales) and the ability to undercut any self employed DEA - it also makes me 'needed' by my company!

So, anyone new who wants to train as a DEA i would highly recommend that you have a source of EPC stock BEFORE you train otherwise you will be wasting your money in the long run.

It wont be long before the Estate Agents catch on to this and they trian themselves up. Therefor emy suggestions would be to get trained as a DEA and apply for jobs as an estate agent or letting agent - that way you have a guranteed stream AND the ability to command a better salary than if you were working independently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one door closes another opens&#8230;</p>
<p>I am an estate agent and work for a small independent firm in Bristol. The local market is, well, bad to say the least!</p>
<p>The number of people pulling out on sales at the last minute or trying to re-neg is sooooooo bad that we have had to look in to other revenue steams. </p>
<p>One of the main problems with estate agency is that we have to wait 2-4 months once we have secured a sale before we actually get paid on the sale. For years Estate agents have been trying to come up with ways to secure some money upfront on every sale and it has been found! HIP&#8217;s are the upfront fee agents have been searching for (thank you labour!) It is instant money and a very good revenue stream.</p>
<p>However, with EPC&#8217;s being part of the HIP it wont be long before they are carried out in house to secure another revenue stream. I have just trained as a DEA which means i can offer Estate Agency experience, lettings experience and now EPC&#8217;s! I have the advantage of having a guranteed source of houses (rental and sales) and the ability to undercut any self employed DEA - it also makes me &#8216;needed&#8217; by my company!</p>
<p>So, anyone new who wants to train as a DEA i would highly recommend that you have a source of EPC stock BEFORE you train otherwise you will be wasting your money in the long run.</p>
<p>It wont be long before the Estate Agents catch on to this and they trian themselves up. Therefor emy suggestions would be to get trained as a DEA and apply for jobs as an estate agent or letting agent - that way you have a guranteed stream AND the ability to command a better salary than if you were working independently.</p>
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